ESPN Big 12 post-spring rankings

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  1. SoonerManiac

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    The pre-spring rankings as well (in parenthesis)

    Offense


    QB

    1. Oklahoma (1)

    2. Oklahoma State (2)

    3. West Virginia (6)

    4. Kansas State (3)

    5. Texas (5)

    6. TCU (4)

    7. Baylor (7)

    8. Texas Tech (8)

    9. Iowa State (9)

    10. Kansas (10)



    RB

    1. West Virginia (1)

    2. Baylor (3)

    3. TCU (2)

    4. Kansas State (6)

    5. Oklahoma State (4)

    6. Oklahoma (8)

    7. Texas (5)

    8. Iowa State (7)

    9. Kansas (10)

    10. Texas Tech (9)



    WR

    1. Oklahoma State (1)

    2. TCU (2)

    3. Iowa State (4)

    4. Texas (6)

    5. Texas Tech (3)

    6. Oklahoma (8)

    7. Kansas (7)

    8. Kansas State (5)

    9. West Virginia (9)

    10. Baylor (10)



    OL:

    1. Oklahoma (1)

    2. Kansas State (2)

    3. Texas (4)

    4. TCU (3)

    5. Oklahoma State (7)

    6. West Virginia (5)

    7. Baylor (6)

    8. Kansas (8)

    9. Texas Tech (9)

    10. Iowa State (10)



    DL:

    1. Texas (1)

    2. Kansas State (2)

    3. Oklahoma State (3)

    4. Oklahoma (4)

    5. Kansas (5)

    6. Baylor (6)

    7. TCU (7)

    8. West Virginia (8)

    9. Iowa State (9)

    10. Texas Tech (10)



    LB:

    1. TCU (1)

    2. Texas (3)

    3. Oklahoma State (4)

    4. Oklahoma (2)

    5. West Virginia (5)

    6. Baylor (6)

    7. Texas Tech (7)

    8. Kansas State (8)

    9. Iowa State (9)

    10. Kansas (10)



    DB:

    1. Kansas State (1)

    2. TCU (2)

    3. Oklahoma (3)

    4. Texas (4)

    5. Oklahoma State (6)

    6. West Virginia (5)

    7. Iowa State (7)

    8. Kansas (9)

    9. Baylor (8)

    10. Texas Tech (10)



    ST:

    1. Kansas State (1)

    2. Oklahoma State (2)

    3. Iowa State (4)

    4. TCU (3)

    5. Texas (6)

    6. Oklahoma (7)

    7. West Virginia (8)

    8. Baylor (5)

    9. Texas Tech (9)

    10. Kansas (10)



    Offense Total:

    1. Oklahoma State (2) - 13 points

    2. Oklahoma (3) - 14 points

    3. TCU (1) - 15 points

    4. Kansas State (4) - 18 points

    5. Texas (5) - 19 points

    5. West Virginia (6) - 19 points

    7. Baylor (7) - 26 points

    8. Iowa State (9) - 30 points

    9. Texas Tech (8) - 32 points

    10. Kansas (10) - 34 points



    Defense Total:

    1. Texas (1) - 7 points

    2. Oklahoma (2) - 10 points

    2. TCU (3) - 10 points

    4. Kansas State (4) - 11 points

    4. Oklahoma State (5) - 11 points

    6. West Virginia (6) - 19 points

    7. Baylor (7) - 21 points

    8. Kansas (8) - 23 points

    Total All:

    1. Oklahoma State (4) - 26 points

    2. TCU (2) - 29 points

    3. Oklahoma (1) - 30 points

    3. Kansas State (3) - 30 points

    5. Texas (5) - 31 points

    6. West Virginia (7) - 45 points

    7. Baylor (6) - 55 points

    8. Iowa State (8) - 58 points

    9. Kansas (10) - 67 points

    10. Texas Tech (9) - 68 points
     
  2. SoonerManiac

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    Going to go ahead and just post this here as well.
    http://thefranchiseok.com/big-12-schedules-best-worst/

    Let’s look at the Big 12 schedule.

    Best non-conference games by team

    Oklahoma: at Ohio State.

    West Virginia: vs. Virginia Tech (at Landover, Md.)

    Texas: at USC

    Iowa State: vs. Iowa

    Baylor: at Duke

    Kansas: vs. Central Michigan

    Texas Tech: vs. Arizona State

    Kansas State: at Vanderbilt

    Oklahoma State: at Pittsburgh

    TCU: at Arkansas

    Worst non-conference schedule: This award goes annually to Baylor, but the Bears did add a game at Duke this season. Kansas gets the nod this year. Sure, the Jayhawks aren’t exactly the flag bearers for the Big 12, but when you play Southeast Missouri State, Central Michigan and then play at a MAC team (Ohio), that doesn’t exactly sweeten the deal. KU is the only team in the conference not to have a Power 5 on the schedule. Also: Kansas State. The Wildcats get Central Arkansas and Charlotte at home before going to Vanderbilt. Not the best.

    Best conference opener: TCU at Oklahoma State (Oct. 23). Oklahoma State, by many, is the team to watch this season in the Big 12. We’ll get a good look at how good the Cowboys are immediately. Also: Texas at Iowa State (Thursday, Sept. 28). Thursday night games in Ames, Iowa, are always a curious situation.

    Toughest conference stretch: Oklahoma State does get Oklahoma in Stillwater this season, but the Cowboys will be playing OU on the third week of a three-week stretch that includes road games at Texas and at West Virginia, without an off-week. Also: Texas has a three-game stretch, none at home, coming at Kansas State, vs. Texas (in Dallas), at Oklahoma State. Also, also: Baylor goes to Oklahoma State, gets West Virginia and then Texas at home in a three-game stretch without an off-week.

    Best final-week game of the season: West Virginia at Oklahoma. The Sooners and the Cowboys are expected to be the best two teams in the conference, but West Virginia isn’t exactly Iowa State or Kansas. If the Sooners are in position to go to the Big 12 title game, they’ll have plenty to lose against West Virginia, including possibly a spot in the college playoff.

    Team most-likely to be undefeated after non-conference play: Kansas State. The Central Arkansas, Charlotte, at Vandy gauntlet looks pretty achievable. Baylor has the next-best shot with its openers against Liberty, UTSA and then at Duke. Every other team has at least one “losable” game or, in the case of Kansas, has three of them.
     
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    Can't argue much with those, though I think TCU is a bit too high. I'm not certain yet that last year was an anomaly for the group Patterson has there now.
     
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    If TCU gets Kenny Hill to play consistently, then they're a 10+ win team and a very real threat to win the league. If not... then they will repeat last season. When that guy played well at times a year ago they were really good. He just couldn't ever put 4 quarters together.
     
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    And, that's a big ask for a guy that's never done that at this level. Hill lost his job at aTm to a walk-on that they got off of OSU.
     
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    I wouldn't bring it up if I hadn't seen TCU do exactly that with Boykin. Or if I hadn't seen the flashes of great play from Hill already.
     
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    Hey, if he hasn't done it four years, why would 5 be different? I agree I see the potential, but until now it's been wasted. We'll see what happens this year. My money is on another middle of the pack finish for TCU.
     
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    That's probably a good bet. But Boykin had started for two years before winning big when everything finally clicked in year 3 as a starter. Kenny Hill started in 2014 as a true sophomore and again last year as a redshirt junior. Weirder things have happened. The guy is definitely talented. He just seems like a head case.
     
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    Boykin had a decent OC hired in year 3 didn't he?
     
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    Same. And for that very reason. A lot of times these QBs either are, or aren't the man. While they gain experience reading defenses and the like, his issues have been heat of battle decision making and questionable arm strength. Those are hard to fix.
     
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    Thanks for the sharing. They are very useful.
     

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